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Lee



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Car Values Reply with quote

I am trying to find a website that shows English Ford values, in particular I am wondering what a 1963 Ford Consul Capri is worth. I found a couple websites that show the value of my 1960 Ford Anglia 106E, but nothing with a Consul or Capri. If someone could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Thanks, Lee[/b]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: English Ford Values Reply with quote

Lee,

Old Cars Weekly publishes an annually updated collector car value guide that includes English Fords (though Iím not sure about Consul 315s and Capris). However the published values seem overly optimistic to me. Obviously sales of any English Ford here is uncommon and I donít think that there is enough public activity to reliably track values here. I have wondered if they are getting their values for our cars from the UK, where of course they are more valuable.

Please let us know what turns up.
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Fern



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Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Canada and Coimbra, Portugal

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen several European magazines that have value listings for classic cars. In Portugal, for example, theres a magazine called Motor Classicos that offer such listings. I think there is a UK magazine with such values but I can't recall which ones. When I subscribed to Octane Magazine from the UK about a year ago, I stopped buying the other ones. (Octane does not list values) I don't think that the values would very accurate either but they may offer a starting point.
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Dave A



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Practical Classics magazine which is available at major book stores lists the U.K. values which as mentioned may not be accurate over here but could be used as a comparative starting point or a selling feature. In this market they they are "usually" worth about half of what they are in the U.K.
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105epaul



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would'nt pay much attention to the values quoted in Practical Classics and other UK magazines, they are very rarely updated and are usually inaccurate. As an example they list the top price for a 105E Anglia as two thousand pounds. A really good one will go for probably twice that, I paid £3,500 in 2000! The prices of quite a few of the English Fords have increased in recent years, especially Mk1/2 Escorts and Mk2/3 Zephyr/Zodiacs.

Paul
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Dave A



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a whole different market over here Paul, that's if you can call it a market. While you are correct in what you say, 2000 pounds is 4000 Dollars and that is more than they have historically sold for over here however the Harry Potter thing may help increase values. A mk 1 Cortina here in Canada recently got big up to 6200 Dollars on ebay which is the most I can recollect one getting up to. A "nice" Lotus may fetch 10,000 Dollars (5000 Pounds) if you can find the right customer. Prices are on thr rise though which is a good thing.
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Dave A



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the one off ebay. It was actually 6800 Dollars-Reserve not met.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mk1-Ford-Cortina-2-Dr-1600cc-Lotus-Colours_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6057QQihZ006QQitemZ160217833838QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
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105epaul



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The prices here are getting too high for the 'normal' enthusiast. Mk1 Lotus Cortinas are normally over £10,000 and GT versions have followed the upward trend. The Mk2 variants are slowly following but are cheaper. Normal shopping versions aren't too bad but of course all English Fords are pretty expensive to restore properly as original panels are scarce and expensive. The best value cars are the 100E/107Es but the sidevalve engines are not much good at coping with modern traffic conditions. I'm glad that there there are quite a few of you keeping our old Fords alive!

Paul
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1960Zody



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true Paul,
Have you seen the prices of 105E stuff recently?
There was a Bonnet badge sold on E-Bay recently for the princely sum of £150!!!

I think the 105E is the next one to start soaring, not just because of the Harry Potter 'Halo' effect, but also because Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts are becoming overpriced so people move on to the next one.

You can see the path by looking at the trends with Escorts.

First the Mk1 2 Doors got expensive, so people moved to 4 Doors, then when they went up they moved to Mk2's, following the same 2-door 4-door line...

Just wish I'd held on to the 109E van and the Mk2 Escort Ghia and the Mk2 Escort Estate, could have been on a goldmine.. Smile
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Dave A



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although....check out this Lotus race car that was on ebay Shocked

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260210951316&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016#ebayphotohosting
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105epaul



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a nicely prepared car for around the right money. They are around that price in Europe for race car and quite a few of them started life as a 1200 Deluxe! Wish I had the money to buy it. I'll just have to keep doing the lottery I guess! By the way Dave, your Cortina is really nice. My late uncle bought a new red 1500GT Cortina in early 1967, it looked real cool with Lotus rims and I have fond memories of him and that car in particular.

Paul
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Capri335



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Values, Consul Capri in particular Reply with quote

Ah, one of my pet subjects... ha ha..... values.

You are only going to get what someone is prepared to pay of course. But in my mind too many cars get sold too cheaply.

If it's a common model, well that may be fine.

With regards to the Consul Capri in particular, the highest price I have seen on ebay is 6547 Pounds. Very very nice GT. I sold a Consul Capri here for A$11700 over 10 years ago. The car was restored and had a Toyota 4AGE fitted. I wouldn't let my current one go for less than A$25,000. This may seem high to some, but the cars are even rarer now. like someone mentioned above, parts are going through the roof. So it is all subjective.

If the car requires restoration, then the price is going to be low. Once restored, it will have a heap of value in it.

I am putting on as many new parts as I can find. Just the sum of these is many thousands, without the work value. Not that it really matters because I won't be selling it anyway!! Smile
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