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P&P around Vancouver
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:44 pm
by Langlia
Any good recommendations for a port and polish around Vancouver out to the Fraser Valley?
What should a port and polish cost with a head skim.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:09 pm
by Brett Wilkie
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:12 am
by Langlia
Hmm,
Yea was thinking about it for the crossflow, mine has the chambered head. Burton does one but it's super expensive
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:17 pm
by Brett Wilkie
Yes it is expensive but we are stuck with the "Canuck Buck" It is a shame that you didn't consider a flat type head when you first had it apart as you now have the wrong pistons in your block for the flat head and there are not a lot of the flat heads around to be found. When I did my x-flow I bought an alloy head from Dave Bean, they come in a sort of rough form but are easy to port out to what you want. They are also not inexpensive when you add the new (larger) valves, springs and other bits but they sure take a few pounds off the engine weight.
Re: P&P around Vancouver
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:24 pm
by Sideways
Langlia wrote:Any good recommendations for a port and polish around Vancouver out to the Fraser Valley?
What should a port and polish cost with a head skim.
Try Richard Chong at RAC - Lotus specialist and doesn't do P&P but does know many in the business.
http://www.richmondautoclinic.com/
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:53 pm
by Dave C
When I built up the 1600 engine in my Morgan, I took a chambered head and had the chamber machined off to make a flat head.
Also used 1300 GT pistons, but had to flycut the tops for big valves.
Dave.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:02 pm
by Langlia
Interesting! I had a flat top head I traded away for some Weber's. Probably should have rebuilt the motor when I had it out but oh well.
Posted on Turbosport to see what's available in England..
Priced out a zetec conversion with using the 2000E box and I can get the parts for about £1200.. might look into it more. That's keeping it on the 40s
Minus the motor mounts and motor.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:51 pm
by Langlia
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:09 am
by Brett Wilkie
That is yet another approach, I have heard that this method works well. You would have to use the more conventional flat top pistons with this specially chambered crossflow head, lighter pistons, but you might have to machine the block top down too?? Do some research on this one.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:45 am
by Langlia
Didn't the early 681F xflow come with flat top piston? And 711 had the introduction of the flat head so needed the bowl in piston with the cutouts?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:04 pm
by Brett Wilkie
The early crossflow had flat pistons in the sense that it did not have valve cut-outs but it still had a bowl in piston like these.
The 711M engine has the same bowl in piston but also valve cut-outs because the cylinder head surface is dead flat.
These are totally flat bellow.
I think the head you are looking at is meant to be used with a totally flat top piston of unknown origin? I seem to recall reading about how they go about doing it and I thought there was some block machining or perhaps different connecting rods??
You best do some research online to get the compression correct, if you are talking with the seller of that head ask him what the ratio is and with what combination of parts and machining.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:20 pm
by Langlia
Good advice, thanks Brett!
1600 head
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:51 am
by Canucktina
Remember, a formula ford head costs serious money and in theory at least does not deviate much from "stock" condition. And they are built in decent numbers allowing the engine builders to get a good handle on efficient production.
My point is that head modification that optimises performance is expensive ! The Burton head might not be all that outrageously expensive if it produces true results. Without access to a flowbench and dyno as well as someone experienced in their use results are very difficult to verify.
Greg
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:26 am
by Langlia
I talked to Kershaw Performance in Langley,
Guy said they have a flowbench and ballpark figure was between $400-500 for port polish and head assembly if I supply the valves and misc parts.